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Shadow Stalker Posted: 15:55:10 20th Mar 2006

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i like the shields




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Ice Shardz Posted: 16:12:09 20th Mar 2006

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not when you are attacking them though.




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Shadow Stalker Posted: 16:15:36 20th Mar 2006

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i do actually means more points :)




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Filas Posted: 16:20:29 20th Mar 2006

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no, means les points for destroyed enemies troops and energy.
Such shield are only giving more points if you want to cheat with points - you can put T or E into 20x planet, make max shield and give to another player. Such way you can get nice targets which will give you many points and it will be probably cheaper and faster than buy coords... Such big shield leads not only to enormous defence but also to cheating on points...




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Shadow Stalker Posted: 16:32:49 20th Mar 2006

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wow so this has gone from me liking the new shields and likeing attacking the new shields to suddenly me giving people planets to attack them and cheating :S




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Filas Posted: 16:43:25 20th Mar 2006

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I don't know if anyone uses such tactics, but obvious that having such big shields it can be used.
300k T will make 1.5mln defence if shield is 20x
to capture this you will need 200% assault and 500k troops.

so you can get 15k points for only 800k troops

possibility to do this depends on 2 things - max exp of assault (bigger exp lets capture planet with less T) and max impact of shield (bigger shield lets get bigger defence with less res).




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well, bottom line on shields is you get EXACTLY the same points you always did for destroying the same amount of defense, but to get those points, you destroy less of the planets resources.

Defense destroyed gives points, so for the same T & E, with larger shields, there is more defense to destroy.

As for Filas point, yes, it is possible to do something to destroy your own troops, but it is not clear that this is a significant advantage and it also is no different than it was under the Zygi rules when this also was even more possible due to the much larger effect of shields then.

So, we have shields now with less effect that when Zygi owned the game, but they are still too strong. Not sure, but it seems to me that the current strength is a reasonable balance and no more subject to being manipulated than were the prior systems we had in place.




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digiat Posted: 23:06:42 20th Mar 2006

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"I don't know if anyone uses such tactics, but obvious that having such big shields it can be used."
i remember atleast 2 people who used that tactic - with big arguments about that and losing respect from alot of players for them




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Filas Posted: 02:03:46 21st Mar 2006

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"So, we have shields now with less effect that when Zygi owned the game, but they are still too strong."

wrong. That times shield effect was smaller. As 20x shield with 1mln T on planet was giving only 3mln defence, not 5mln like now. Just there were uncapturable planets because of different unsucessful attack formula.




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Shadow Stalker Posted: 02:14:47 21st Mar 2006

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but with zygis if u attacked with a fully trained and loaded assualt u would only take off a tiny bit of defense now we take off the same amount of defense as we attack with so hence shields are less effective :P




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